TweetHI, First of all, what are ur goals????? and what is the mg on teh winstrol that u have, are they tbs or liquid?????.....
TweetAlright, I'll try to keep this as short as possible. I've tried to research quite a bit before this post, so please feel free to fill me in on anything I may have misunderstood or failed to address. Also, if I fail to address any details, please feel free to ask me as well. I'm currently 23 years old, 5'7" and have been lifting on/off for about 10 years. I use to be about 235 (fat kid) and dropped down to 170 (+/- 5 lbs) over the past year or two. As far as I can remember, I can gain muscle and increase my lifting weight fairly quick. About a year ago, I was maxing over 300 on bench and repping 270 on basic supplements such as protein shakes, glucosamine, vitamins, etc. Due to time circumstances, I was forced to stop working out for about 6 months but I now have the time to start again. I've been at the gym for a couple weeks now. I just purchased some winstrol tabs and have decided to start a cycle but I haven't started taking them yet because I want to find out more information before I start. Down to business... I don’t want to be skinny and ripped, nor do I want to get hulked up. I want to have a lean body with some decent definition. I also don’t want to inject and only plan to do a cycle or two. I was looking for suggestions on when I should start the cycle, how long of a cycle I should do, what mg/day I should be taking, or whether I should be taking stanozolol to begin with at all. Any information would be well appreciated, thanks in advance.
TweetHI, First of all, what are ur goals????? and what is the mg on teh winstrol that u have, are they tbs or liquid?????.....
TweetGET READY FOR SOME JOINT PAIN WITH WINNIE ALONE...WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACHIEVE? LEAN MASS? IF SO, GO WITH PROP,EQ, AND WINNIE TOGETHER
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Tweeti agree wt the joint pain ,but i disagree to take 3 compounds (eq, winny and pro) SINCE IT IS HIS FIRST CYCLE.......!!!!!!!!!Originally Posted by O2BESOHUGE
Tweetpoint taken big mike...i over looked that.
well, not wanting to inject leaves you with limited cycle plans also. are you maxed out on your natural potential? there may be more in you naturally that you can tap into if your not training right, eating right, and getting the right amount of rest. the winnie tabs will lean you down but id take some glucosamine/chondroiton sp? along with it for your joints.
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TweetHe wants lean mass with some definition, but not real bulky, but he doesn't want to inject. I don't know what to suggest since you don't want to inject. Id go with an eca stack with some clen. I know a bro that has done winstrol only cycles, but hes doesn't make any real gains off it. He did short cycles and uses mostly for gaining strength while tightnening up.
Tweetprobably anavar and clen is good, but i like to inejc is better.... i'am not sure if he as liquid or tbs for the winny????Originally Posted by mick-G
TweetI meant two on two off, lol! If he could inject a long ester like enathate or cypionate, he'd only have to inject once a wk, and it would be so much better of a cycle. I was kinda leary when i first started aas, so i can understand his concerns, but it is really a peice of cake with one inject ew.
Tweetwt winny u will gain like max 3-4 pounds, but will make u hard and tighting up ur skin like MICK G SAID......ohhh and strenght as wellOriginally Posted by mick-G
TweetMaybe im readin this different but he is just returning from a 6 month lay off and wants to hit it right from the start.I got the impression from his post this will be his first cycle.(Only gonna do a cycle or two)It also doesnt sound like he has done any research on the compound he is gonna take. He is nowhere near is natural potential and is looking for the easy way out. I dont think this is a good idea.It sounds to me all he is looking for is a beach body. You dont need drugs to obtain this look. He says he makes good gains with basic supps id say do them first for at least 6 months to get his muscles back into shape and his tendons stregthened back up.Then if he doesnt have the look he is after try a test only cycle.As long as he is afraid of needles hes not gonna get the desired results. Winstrol tabs by themselves arent even really worth the trouble if you ask me. But thats just my opinion.
Tweeti hate winny tbs, i like injec like stan 50 or stan 100 by QV or stanazolic by denkall 50 mg those are my favorite no matter what, beside teh zambon one but hard to get and a lof of fake zambon are out there
TweetI agree with Almost, if you're not ready to take the "plunge" literally on injecting, maybe you should reconsider what you really want. Injections are far safer in terms of overall harm to the body and once you get over the anxiety of an injection, it's cake from there on out. If you do decide to go with something injectable and want to stay relatively lean, a test only first cycle would be hugely beneficial. You could even add Equipoise along with it to keep a "hard, lean look".
Whatever you do, stick around here and ask any questions you have. Everyone here was a "beginner" at some point and we all can help you out bro!! Good luck!!![]()
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Tweeti agree with almost and raven. i would say leave juice alone until ur ready to inject. i don't mean to sound like a dick but thats how i feel. i had a fear myself. at first i had my buddy inject me and i would look away, then i forced myself to look. then i got some slin pins and b-12. and i practiced that way. slin pin is so small it did not bother me. after that it was a breeze
Tweethonestly my first time when i inejcted, i swear it took me 47 mns in the bathroom to do it , i got pale and sweaty big time and i couldn't even hold teh damn needle since i was sweatin a lot and my heart was racing like i was on nitrous oxide..but it will sting a bit, and as soon the tip goes in the skin, the rest is like water and ALWAYS DRAW BACK AND IF U SEE BLOOD, REINJECTED AND DO IT AGAIN.
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TweetLOL Mikey, I think we all we went through something like that the first time we "plunged"! First time for me, I was shaking like a freakin leaf, thinking, "Okay, don't forget to aspirate, go slow, don't move the needle around.."
After the first couple times, I used to look forward to my shots!!!
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Obsessed is a word used by the lazy to describe the dedicated..